1. I think that Montresor despised the fact that Fortunado was succeeding as a fraud. He says, "Thousand injuries of Fortunado I had borne as I best could, when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge." I think this is stating how a lot of little things have been vexing Montressor and he finally wants revenge. Fortunado is really just a drink that disguises himself as a connoisseur of wine simply to get more alcohol and this annoys Montresor. Fortunado is not a true wine connoisseur because he states, "Luchesi cannot tell Amontillado from Sherry." Montresor finds this annoying because Amotillado is sherry. Also Fortunado does not cheerish the wine like a true connoisseur and instead downs it instantly like an alcoholic: "I broke and reached him a flagon of De Grave. He emptied it at a breath. his eyes flashed with a fierce light."
2. I do not think that anything is ultimately gained from revenge. I think everyone has great plans to seek revenge against people that have done something to them, but once following through with these plans they have a different feeling than expected. This feeling of guilt is what ultimately makes revenge not worth it. The pursuer ultimately gains nothing. In the story I think that Montresor feels guilty for his deed too, "No answer still. I thrust a torch through the remaining aperture and let it fall within. There cam forth in return only a jingling of bells. My heart grew sick..." This explicitly states how Montresor somewhat regrets this deed he has commited. He did not have the feeling of accomplishment he was expecting.
Level 2: He wanted to kill him because he wanted to extract revenge on Fortunado for some past event. The reason this was so easy for him to do was that Fortunado had no idea he had done him wrong or if he did have an idea he thought it was a thing of the past.
1. Fortunado bugs Montresor because he is a fraud. He claims to be an expert on wine, but really he is just a drunk. An example that shows Fortuando's fraud is when he is given the rare drink, De Grave. Instead of smelling, swishing, and tasting like an expert would do, Fortunado treats it as something of less significance. Montresor desribes Fortunado as "emptying it in a breath".
2. I think that what is gained in revenge depends on the person. For me, I would have a brief moment of satisfaction but later on my conscious would catch up to me. Revenge is a logically solution for an issue, but not an ethical one. It is simply human nature to seek revenge. Although you gain satisfaction from revenge, the guilt overpowers it. For Montresor, he tries to pass of his regret as the dampness of where he was when he says, "My heart grew sick-on account of the dampness of the catacombs."
1. The relationship between Monteresor and Fortunado is one that we discover throughout the story. We understand that Monteresor and Fortunado are both contesors of wine and are competing in the wine business. Monteresor believes the Fortunado is a fraud and really does not know about wine. Monteresor also feels like he has to ger revenge of Fortunado because Fortunado insulted him. “A wrong is unredressed when retribution overtakes its redresser I is equally unredressed hen retribution overtakes its redresser” Monteresor feels that he has put this off for so long that his revenge must be epic. He feels that he must give him “a thousand injuries” just to make up for the time he wasted not doing anything about Fortunado. So her therefore feels that there is nothing left to do, but kill Fortunado.
2.If you were to murder someone sober they would be able to fight back and hurt you. If they were entoxicated it would be a lot easier for you to take advantage of them because they are not fully aware of their surroundings. In the story, Fortunado is a alcoholic so when Monteresor brought out the wine he knew there was no way Fortunado could resist. Alcohol is something that can either be used wisely and cause pleasure or it can be taken to a whole other level and be abused and cause harm. Alcohol is something that should not be mixed with murder and will only make a bad situation worse.
1. Monteresor feels that if he can take advantage of Fortunado’s weakness then he can kill him. He knows Fortunado’s weakness is his alchohol problem so that is why he gets Fortunado drunk before he kills him. It is kind of ironic how Fortunado says he loves wine so much, but it is really the alchohol in the wine that he loves. This is another reason Monteresor feels that Fortunado is a fraud and wants to kill him.
2. First of all I do not think that murder is any way to deal with a situation so neither of the options are necessarily better. I think that if you are going to murder someone you should not take advantage of him or her by getting them drunk. It is for sure easier to take advantage and lure someone into their death when they are drunk, but it is unethical in my opinion. For example in the story, The Cask of Amontillado Monteresor gets Fortunado drunk so he can kill him easier. Monteresor being a very smart and sly person I believe did a smart thing by getting Fortunado drunk because there is no way the murder could have been completed if Fortunado was sober.
1. I agree with what Arianna says and that it is ironic how his love of wine eventually brought him to his demise.
2. I agree with what Allegra says and that it depends on the person. I think most people would have a guilty concious for revenge sought but there are people that are stone-cold and don't feel any emotions. It is human nature to seek revenge and like Allegra says it is not an ethical decision.
1. I also agree with Arianna and how she said it was ironic. The story is filled with irony. For example, he's dressed as a fool and ends up being fooled in the end, and that his name means Fortunate and he is not.
2. I think that some people might believe that something is gained from revenge, and maybe get comfort, but ultimately nothing is. Montresor avenged himself, however Fortunado's deeds had still been done and now Montresor has to explain himself to other people and face reality. I don't think he was a bad person deep down,and that's why he began to feel guilt right after he locked him up.
Arianna Post #3 Murder is something that people should not take lightly. I believe that Monteresor should not have murdered Fortunado just because of a past fued or that he was a fraud. Even though he felt like his actions were so delayed so therefore they had to be epic, it was still not right. I think that in the end Monteresor regretted killing Fortunado. "My heart grew sick- on account of the dampness of the caracombs. I hasted to make an end of my labor." I think Monteresor realized that he might have overeacted a little and that murder was not what he wanted in the first place. He just wanted Fortunado to be punished for being a fraud, but I killing him was not the answer.
2. I agree with both Allegra and Grigg in their first blog posts. Revenge is something that feels good at the time and the brings you sadness. I feel like Monteresor was trying to avenge himself by getting revenge on Fortunado, but in the end nothing was really achieved. A man was murdered and now Monteresor must live the the guilt. He begins to feel guilt shortly after he locks Fortunado up so I cant imagine how much worse it was get. Ultimately revenge might feel right at the time, but in the end nothing is really achieved.
2. Revenge is a feeling that we all feel is necessary through our lives. We feel that revenge is necessary if someone has wronged us. The only way to get back at them is to do something just as bad to whoever wronged us. In my opinion revenge is not something that someone should partake in. Even though someone did something wrong to you you should be the bigger person and just let it be. You are no better than the person who wronged you if you do the same to them. Therefore I believe nothing is gained from revenge. You might feel good about it at the time, but you will most likely regret it sometime later on in your life. For example in the gothic literature story, The Cask Of Amontillado the narrator, Monteresor has been wronged by Fortunado. He feels the only way he can get back at him is if he kills him. After he gets Fortunado drunk and kills him he begins to feel the regret for revenge. This feeling he must feel for the rest of his life and live with the guilt.
2. Adding to my statement about The Cask of Amontillado, I feel that there was nothing gained by Monteresor's revenge. He now has to live with the guilt of killing Fortunado and will never be looked at the same. When Fortunado wronged him by insulting his wine, Fortunado did not loose anything. He might have felt bad baout what he said, but the guilt was minimal. Since Monteresor became inraged with Fortunado's accusation he had nothing left to do but kill him to get revenge. He had to feel the way Fortunado felt when he wronged Monteresor. In the end nothing was gained from Monteresor's revenge which goes along with my first statement: Nothing is ever gained from revenge.
1. I agree with Ari when she says how Fortunado does not love wine but he actually just loves alcohol and getting drunk. He should not have killed based on a passed fued, even if he thinks Fortunado is a fraud. I definately think it is Fortunato's fake intelligence in wine that annoys Montressor to murder.
2. I agree with Arianna when she says there was nothing gained by Montresor's revenge. I think that when Fortunato screams and expects a return scream from Montressor it shows his guilt. He kind regrets what he has just so recently done.
Final Questions (answer these):
ReplyDeleteLevel 2: Why did Montresor want to kill Fortunado?
Level 3: Is there anything ultimately gained in revenge?
Grigg-
ReplyDelete1. I think that Montresor despised the fact that Fortunado was succeeding as a fraud. He says, "Thousand injuries of Fortunado I had borne as I best could, when he ventured upon insult, I vowed revenge." I think this is stating how a lot of little things have been vexing Montressor and he finally wants revenge. Fortunado is really just a drink that disguises himself as a connoisseur of wine simply to get more alcohol and this annoys Montresor. Fortunado is not a true wine connoisseur because he states, "Luchesi cannot tell Amontillado from Sherry." Montresor finds this annoying because Amotillado is sherry. Also Fortunado does not cheerish the wine like a true connoisseur and instead downs it instantly like an alcoholic: "I broke and reached him a flagon of De Grave. He emptied it at a breath. his eyes flashed with a fierce light."
2. I do not think that anything is ultimately gained from revenge. I think everyone has great plans to seek revenge against people that have done something to them, but once following through with these plans they have a different feeling than expected. This feeling of guilt is what ultimately makes revenge not worth it. The pursuer ultimately gains nothing. In the story I think that Montresor feels guilty for his deed too, "No answer still. I thrust a torch through the remaining aperture and let it fall within. There cam forth in return only a jingling of bells. My heart grew sick..." This explicitly states how Montresor somewhat regrets this deed he has commited. He did not have the feeling of accomplishment he was expecting.
Level 2: He wanted to kill him because he wanted to extract revenge on Fortunado for some past event. The reason this was so easy for him to do was that Fortunado had no idea he had done him wrong or if he did have an idea he thought it was a thing of the past.
ReplyDeleteAllegra
ReplyDelete1. Fortunado bugs Montresor because he is a fraud. He claims to be an expert on wine, but really he is just a drunk. An example that shows Fortuando's fraud is when he is given the rare drink, De Grave. Instead of smelling, swishing, and tasting like an expert would do, Fortunado treats it as something of less significance. Montresor desribes Fortunado as "emptying it in a breath".
2. I think that what is gained in revenge depends on the person. For me, I would have a brief moment of satisfaction but later on my conscious would catch up to me. Revenge is a logically solution for an issue, but not an ethical one. It is simply human nature to seek revenge. Although you gain satisfaction from revenge, the guilt overpowers it. For Montresor, he tries to pass of his regret as the dampness of where he was when he says, "My heart grew sick-on account of the dampness of the catacombs."
Arianna Post #1
ReplyDelete1. The relationship between Monteresor and Fortunado is one that we discover throughout the story. We understand that Monteresor and Fortunado are both contesors of wine and are competing in the wine business. Monteresor believes the Fortunado is a fraud and really does not know about wine. Monteresor also feels like he has to ger revenge of Fortunado because Fortunado insulted him. “A wrong is unredressed when retribution overtakes its redresser I is equally unredressed hen retribution overtakes its redresser” Monteresor feels that he has put this off for so long that his revenge must be epic. He feels that he must give him “a thousand injuries” just to make up for the time he wasted not doing anything about Fortunado. So her therefore feels that there is nothing left to do, but kill Fortunado.
2.If you were to murder someone sober they would be able to fight back and hurt you. If they were entoxicated it would be a lot easier for you to take advantage of them because they are not fully aware of their surroundings. In the story, Fortunado is a alcoholic so when Monteresor brought out the wine he knew there was no way Fortunado could resist. Alcohol is something that can either be used wisely and cause pleasure or it can be taken to a whole other level and be abused and cause harm. Alcohol is something that should not be mixed with murder and will only make a bad situation worse.
Arianna Post #2
ReplyDelete1. Monteresor feels that if he can take advantage of Fortunado’s weakness then he can kill him. He knows Fortunado’s weakness is his alchohol problem so that is why he gets Fortunado drunk before he kills him. It is kind of ironic how Fortunado says he loves wine so much, but it is really the alchohol in the wine that he loves. This is another reason Monteresor feels that Fortunado is a fraud and wants to kill him.
2. First of all I do not think that murder is any way to deal with a situation so neither of the options are necessarily better. I think that if you are going to murder someone you should not take advantage of him or her by getting them drunk. It is for sure easier to take advantage and lure someone into their death when they are drunk, but it is unethical in my opinion. For example in the story, The Cask of Amontillado Monteresor gets Fortunado drunk so he can kill him easier. Monteresor being a very smart and sly person I believe did a smart thing by getting Fortunado drunk because there is no way the murder could have been completed if Fortunado was sober.
Grigg- Second response
ReplyDelete1. I agree with what Arianna says and that it is ironic how his love of wine eventually brought him to his demise.
2. I agree with what Allegra says and that it depends on the person. I think most people would have a guilty concious for revenge sought but there are people that are stone-cold and don't feel any emotions. It is human nature to seek revenge and like Allegra says it is not an ethical decision.
Allegra Post 2
ReplyDelete1. I also agree with Arianna and how she said it was ironic. The story is filled with irony. For example, he's dressed as a fool and ends up being fooled in the end, and that his name means Fortunate and he is not.
Allegra Post 3
ReplyDelete2. I think that some people might believe that something is gained from revenge, and maybe get comfort, but ultimately nothing is. Montresor avenged himself, however Fortunado's deeds had still been done and now Montresor has to explain himself to other people and face reality. I don't think he was a bad person deep down,and that's why he began to feel guilt right after he locked him up.
Arianna Post #3
ReplyDeleteMurder is something that people should not take lightly. I believe that Monteresor should not have murdered Fortunado just because of a past fued or that he was a fraud. Even though he felt like his actions were so delayed so therefore they had to be epic, it was still not right. I think that in the end Monteresor regretted killing Fortunado. "My heart grew sick- on account of the dampness of the caracombs. I hasted to make an end of my labor." I think Monteresor realized that he might have overeacted a little and that murder was not what he wanted in the first place. He just wanted Fortunado to be punished for being a fraud, but I killing him was not the answer.
2. I agree with both Allegra and Grigg in their first blog posts. Revenge is something that feels good at the time and the brings you sadness. I feel like Monteresor was trying to avenge himself by getting revenge on Fortunado, but in the end nothing was really achieved. A man was murdered and now Monteresor must live the the guilt. He begins to feel guilt shortly after he locks Fortunado up so I cant imagine how much worse it was get. Ultimately revenge might feel right at the time, but in the end nothing is really achieved.
Arianna Post #1 Redo of Question 2
ReplyDelete2. Revenge is a feeling that we all feel is necessary through our lives. We feel that revenge is necessary if someone has wronged us. The only way to get back at them is to do something just as bad to whoever wronged us. In my opinion revenge is not something that someone should partake in. Even though someone did something wrong to you you should be the bigger person and just let it be. You are no better than the person who wronged you if you do the same to them. Therefore I believe nothing is gained from revenge. You might feel good about it at the time, but you will most likely regret it sometime later on in your life. For example in the gothic literature story, The Cask Of Amontillado the narrator, Monteresor has been wronged by Fortunado. He feels the only way he can get back at him is if he kills him. After he gets Fortunado drunk and kills him he begins to feel the regret for revenge. This feeling he must feel for the rest of his life and live with the guilt.
Arianna Amini Post #2 Redo of Question 2
ReplyDelete2. Adding to my statement about The Cask of Amontillado, I feel that there was nothing gained by Monteresor's revenge. He now has to live with the guilt of killing Fortunado and will never be looked at the same. When Fortunado wronged him by insulting his wine, Fortunado did not loose anything. He might have felt bad baout what he said, but the guilt was minimal. Since Monteresor became inraged with Fortunado's accusation he had nothing left to do but kill him to get revenge. He had to feel the way Fortunado felt when he wronged Monteresor. In the end nothing was gained from Monteresor's revenge which goes along with my first statement: Nothing is ever gained from revenge.
Grigg- 3rd analysis
ReplyDelete1. I agree with Ari when she says how Fortunado does not love wine but he actually just loves alcohol and getting drunk. He should not have killed based on a passed fued, even if he thinks Fortunado is a fraud. I definately think it is Fortunato's fake intelligence in wine that annoys Montressor to murder.
2. I agree with Arianna when she says there was nothing gained by Montresor's revenge. I think that when Fortunato screams and expects a return scream from Montressor it shows his guilt. He kind regrets what he has just so recently done.